tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525472174858926052.post2206690143390007613..comments2022-01-08T10:13:53.412-08:00Comments on Clifton Hill - Writer and Artist of the Fantastical: Veil of a Warrior. Coming Soon? - An Argument to Self-PublishClifton Hillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07023008377807431117noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525472174858926052.post-58985823168252373462011-11-24T07:13:31.142-08:002011-11-24T07:13:31.142-08:00@TheRedThing - thanks for the encouragement. I hav...@TheRedThing - thanks for the encouragement. I haven't shown it yet, still needs that last revision that has gotten put off while working on some other projects. But when I'm ready, if no one bites...I'll be testing my own waters.Clifton Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07023008377807431117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525472174858926052.post-8658391287320917602011-11-23T15:21:04.064-08:002011-11-23T15:21:04.064-08:00IF you showed it to publishers and noone is publis...IF you showed it to publishers and noone is publishing it then stop procrastinating and just do it:)TheRedThinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16277633902032853797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525472174858926052.post-7993123338694956122011-11-15T20:56:37.070-08:002011-11-15T20:56:37.070-08:00@Cursed Armada - Thanks for the encouragement! Bes...@Cursed Armada - Thanks for the encouragement! Besides the fact that I love to dabble in my fantasy worlds, I write with the urgent hope that one day I can talk about my creations with fans. I'll keep you in mind for potential readers.<br /><br />@Farfetched - Thanks for the note and kudos.<br /><br />@Paul - Moses was definitely a major reason why I'm considering this. I've heard about Sullivan, but I don't think I can manage to set up my own indie publisher at the moment. Would be pretty awesome though.Clifton Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07023008377807431117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525472174858926052.post-2215209034920552482011-11-15T13:07:55.423-08:002011-11-15T13:07:55.423-08:00Probably Moses Siregar is the key leading example ...Probably Moses Siregar is the key leading example of someone making a go of self-publishing while still trying to work the trad channels.<br /><br />Also, see Michael Sullivan.Paul Weimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02444942522624902562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525472174858926052.post-78236825356233469662011-11-15T12:04:43.341-08:002011-11-15T12:04:43.341-08:00Jeffrey, I paid $70 for my book cover. It's in...Jeffrey, I paid $70 for my book cover. It's in the sidebar of my blog, if you want to see what I got for the money.Larry Kollarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317037795075278427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525472174858926052.post-25198759284758581642011-11-15T11:42:58.594-08:002011-11-15T11:42:58.594-08:00Hmm... All I can offer are words of encouragement!...Hmm... All I can offer are words of encouragement! I really enjoyed what you have in the link... I would love to read more, so if you need somebody to sample read, I'd be more than happy.Cursed Armadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11231771423272385479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525472174858926052.post-68008163189722207682011-11-15T09:49:57.397-08:002011-11-15T09:49:57.397-08:00@FARfetched - Absolutely. That certainly weighs he...@FARfetched - Absolutely. That certainly weighs heavily on my mind as well. So in other words, publish time is somewhere between two years and...NEVER. No wonder a lot of people are going self-pub. Probably more than should.<br /><br />Dark side cookies are surprisingly: snickerdoodles. I would have thought double-chocolate chip. Life brings yet another surprise. ;-)<br /><br />@Jeffrey - That shouldn't be a barrier to entry. I'm sure with your wealth of contacts, one might be willing to trade one thing for another. Perhaps you can offer an artist something that they could use in exchange of money. Barter system? (I'm personally looking for a copyeditor, that is also a novelist, that I might be able to trade a book cover for a copyedit.) I'd also suggest checking out any art colleges for talent (regular college art programs work too). These are people looking to make a mark and get some work on their portfolio. Your social network could easily benefit them in finding further work for pay or a full time job.<br /><br />A number of my fellow students did projects for free or very little pay, some were quite talented.<br /><br />If trolling around an art college doesn't fit into your schedule, you can always seek students out online and see if any might be worthwhile to work with.Clifton Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07023008377807431117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525472174858926052.post-38811255509680971652011-11-15T07:42:57.626-08:002011-11-15T07:42:57.626-08:00The only thing that keeps me from going the self-p...The only thing that keeps me from going the self-pubbed route is cover art. I can't afford a cover artist, nor can I do any cover artwork myself. So I'm content with sticking to traditional publishing, lengthy though the process is.Jeff Beeslerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17935580053176710609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525472174858926052.post-56595299786851946002011-11-15T05:52:48.423-08:002011-11-15T05:52:48.423-08:00The thing you didn't bring yourself to say: th...The thing you didn't bring yourself to say: those months (or years) of querying and trying to line up a publisher may <i>never</i> bear fruit. Even if it does, you have a guarantee of no income (beyond whatever advance you get) during that long wait to get the book on the shelves.<br /><br />As you've said, there's a lot of work either way. One has a more certain result. Welcome to the darkside — have a cookie!Larry Kollarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317037795075278427noreply@blogger.com